Phil Creehan moderator : How did you take part and how did that inform dialogue with the Government? When the World Bank came with research in region, we were excited. Many times we heard of people being physically attacked and living everyday with threats to safety.
We need to think beyond just no harm, but to next steps. But things are never stable. In Tanzania, what was it like to engage with World Bank when law on the books? This is especially important in terms of how the Bank engages with our clients in discussions that may lead or are leading to new projects.
When huge loans go from World Bank to clients, loans can exclude or hurt environment. Yet in many places discussion of trans issues has fallen prey to the illiberalism of identity politics.
The message I have here is that the World Bank is operating in a tough space, it is hard to open minds. This is something we can celebrate while prodding the World Bank to do more on these issues.
We want to effectively move the ESF implementation related to non-discrimination, such that more and more clients will have SOGI inclusion on their own radars and will consider it as one of the important approaches for economic and social inclusion. For our first step, we created a group of specialists.